Fast-forward to today. Some n00b who happens to be on my friend's list for the simple reason that I always accept invites asked me how to install this. I come here, and I read the comments. It's been nearly a year since the "Public Beta" release. I told the guy not to bother with installing it, because it's not a .vpk file.

It does have more puzzles in it than any other 3rd party campaign I have played and I think that deserves some recognition. Even if the puzzles are silly in spots.

I think they should "at least" complete the final map. Like this, there is no conclusion. Even if their "mysterious fifth character" idea doesn't work out, >at least finish the last map Darth< Otherwise, you look like you quit. You can still finish the last map and gain that respect.

I agree that the narration gets drowned out by the other sounds in the game. I thought it was a cool idea to try. There are also tons of extra touches in these maps that you have to pay close attention to notice. The designers were really into these maps and it shows.

Why are people so fired up about this campaign? I have nothing vested in their campaign (good or bad) and chances are neither do you. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Perhaps this didn't live up to the hype and people's expectations. But, they did bring something different into the game and they deserve some respect for it.

Darth, finish the last map.

It's a great custom campaign. Buggy, but great!

So what did he do? Since it was the only way to shut you impatient people up apparently he released it as is (and serves you all right). And now your taking your ungratefulness that they complied despite their (it will be done when its done).

In my mind you all got exactly what you deserved. A "buggy pile of trash as you all call it" because you people couldn't wait for them to finish it.

Then we get the typical comments form people. You know, the kind like, "Go make your own map if you can do better" or "are you a mapper". I see this all the time. This is the hitback one gets for criticizing a campaign or map. It's low and typical of a adolescent. It means thy don't like your criticism and that means you'll get a dumb response in return… one that doesn't back up your own criticism.

they shouldnt blame "oh its beta" BETA ARE SUPOSED TO BE WORKING

darth brush should go back to playing mario and fighting stinkers

People should pass some kind of test, like IQ test, before they are allowed to post.

And also they should change the "Best Upcoming Mod in Mod DB's 2008 awards" to "Worst Mod on the net in 2009".

What a failure.

Some things they did put in are not even L4D, the entire thing is not L4D campaign but anyway… Example, the stupid fifth character that tells you what to do? Are they kidding? This is not innovative, it's stupid. First of all there is a reason why this game is called "Left 4 Dead". Secondly, this is FPS horror/survival which mean you shoot everything in site. Solving puzzles to advance is good but having some character that you never see telling you what to do is plain stupid and out of place. You don't have to even think, you just follow orders… dumb.

I won't even try to list all the bugs/problems that this "campaign" has. Bugs/problems that it shouldn't even have after all the time it was put into it. I've seen custom campaigns done by one person which are state of the art and well worth playing, and replaying. But this one is plain crap.

There is a reason why at least 90% of the comments on the net are negative about Dead Before Dawn. And the reason is that this "campaign" sucks ass. And if you actually read the "good" comments all they say is "it's a good campaign" or "nice" or other one to two words posts. That tells you that those comments are posted by ignorant fanboys that actually have nothing to support it or the developers themselves. The negative posts are posted by everyday players that have something to back their claims about how bad this campaign is. They list bugs, the extremely long time it was in development, entire team of people that worked on it, etc. After considering all that their work falls under the same standards with regular games. You wouldn't accept this from a regular game why then accept it from a team of people that took them over 2 years to work on it and at the end released a buggy piece of crap… without end. You can give a brake to a campaign that was developed by one person but not to something like this.

There was WAY TOO MUCH hype over this piece of crap. Not to mention that it was used by one of the developers to scheme some money from naive people for his new computer. And it was scheme since he actually wrote that if no one donates for his new computer this campaign would not be finished. After playing it you realize that it would be much better if no one donated.

This is my personal opinion, which happens to reflect hundreds if not thousands of others that downloaded it and posted their negative experience. So saying that no one should judge it since we are not developers and we can't make a game would be stupid since the games ARE judged by the GAMERS that just play them and not develop them. And the reason is that the games are targeted at the gamers. So actually only the gamers can judge the games. The gamers, like every other consumer, care about the final product and not the process. Otherwise nothing would be ever finished or done well if everyone would say "give them a credit". In fact all we need is more negative comments so people that released this crap never release anything like this again.

Pack it as .zip and rename to .vpk and you're done. Any other change will detect the modified file as "resource cheat" (for example transparant walls)

I've been reading comments on a few different sites and they vary from good, so-so and bad.

Mine? Bad. After spending an hour dow2nloading and then installing (by hand obviously), the game never even got started for me.

I have a glitch on my L4D which is that IF the map/campaign isn't in a .vpk format, then i can't play it. No matter what i try, it never gets far. The game crashes and i get a pop-up telling me i've been disconnected form the server because Steam can't authenticate user.

That's bullsh!t because i have a legal copy of L4D and am fairly skilled at installing custom content.

So, this whole thing was a huge fail for me. After reading some of the con comments, i deleted this sh!t off my computer. Nothing is that important to keep a campaign that's over a gig in size.

So, some of you may rejoice in this but for as long as this was in development, the numerous bugs i've read about makes me shake my head in wonder.

By the way the beginning 2 levels is all that makes playing this map fun. After it's pretty boring.

head to L4Dmods.com when it comes back online for more info.